Real Trolleys and Subs and Trains ( AND Airplanes )

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• See also Transportation_Systems
• See also Derp_Transportation_in_Columbia
• See also Real World
• See also Trolley_System
• See also Trams

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Just a few Images of REAL things - Things the artists/designers merely had to look at for 2 minutes BEFORE then Embarking on making their weird crap ( which allegedly was supposed to have some realism to it to be a "Foil" for the "Shock" part of the game ) ...

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For Rapture's Realistic-Intent :

Design originated 1929

Railroad Roundhouse

REAL bathysphere. Built like a safe to hold out water pressure ( this one reached 3,028 feet down in the 1930s ).

German sub being scrapped. Could go almost as deep as Raptures 600 foot depth

Decades before Rapture built

'Guts' of a REAL submarine. Complex, ain't it ???

And this is just a LITTLE of whats in a REAL working Submarine

Many control activations to drive and trim a Submarine - long Manually Controlled and even more complex mechanisms in the Automated Age.

In the Novel, Ryan visited Rapture while being built arriving via Seaplane(Flying Boat)

Use of Tokens kept the conductors from pocketing CASH fares, and which made automatic turnstiles possible.

Streamlined

PCC ( Presidents' Conference Committee started 1929 ) came up with this design to modernize Street Cars.

Real Subs are Crammed Full of Machinery

There were some 'Streets' in Rapture

1955 typical long distance passenger airplane

Raptures Atlantic Express Traincars look alot like this - don't they ...

Rapture never could quite be like a real cityscape (this is 1945 San Francisco).

Try doing this with Submarines/Bathyspheres which weigh 28+ tons each.

Iconic Image of 'Modernity'

Note the boxy shape to maximize interior

Small scooter ( can be taken ON Trains/Trolley ) to go mid- distances

Another way to get about middle-distances (Streets in Rapture)

Another WELL designed Trolley example the BS1 artists didn't seem to know existed decades before Rapture

Trolleys in Rapture would look more like something like this instead of the weirdness some level designer came up with.

A 1913 design - see how much the interior is maximized - they lasted to the 50s

Streamlining - for appearance if not for effectiveness

PCC designed in 1929 - The BioShock Artist who designs the BS1 game's 'Trolley' was a Hack.

Nostalgia - Little design artistry is needed to copy things that already exist.

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Modern Submarine - Fricken Full of Machinery

Something which Travels Under the Ocean needs to be Fairly Complex.

Complexity has Cost, including for Maintenance - and that for something which needs to have utter Safety in a Dangerous Environment.

Controls for Sub

REAL Submarines are quite complicated machines. Automating Rapture's Bathyspheres is out of the question unless they were Cable Driven routes ( point to point movement, and track guided within the stations ).

Zeppelin Autopilots ( supposedly with latitude/longitude inputs ) are similar fantasy twaddle.

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Understanding Real Submarines

Look at the interior of a real WW2 Submarine ( There are a few around in museums you can actually tour the inside of ), and all what is PACKED into a Submarine. It becomes very much harder ( as in being ridiculously impossible ) for those 'Bathyspheres' to be true submarines ( capable of the significantly independent movement seen in the game ). The game mentioned 'Fishing Subs' ( which would be required to have significant distance capability while trawling ) would have to be much larger vehicles ( with far greater capabilities - and thus even more complexity ).

A decade of new technical development (in Rapture) isn't enough to fix this ( and it would have to be operational early in Raptures history ). Rapture's transit had to be viable from the start. (Some) Players might be comparing to today's variety of small high-tech submersible, which are the product or 70+ years of additional technological development ( BTW - even THOSE things require BIG complex Support Ships for their quite limited uses ).

BioShock Rapture is NOT Infinite BS's flakey-fantasy, so would be required to have some plausible explanations for what you see in-game. A Cable Driven Bathysphere system would be the answer to make the 'Bathyspheres' more workable.

The gamemakers could have given us more REAL looking 'Submarines', like those things seen in the 'Smugglers Hideout' which at least had half a chance of being plausible. Really, what would it have mattered to have a larger vehicle except for that snazzy round 'streamlined' Art Deco look someone envisioned in some early meeting. ( Note - "Form Over Function" is problematic when something actually has the requirement to FUNCTION. )

By changing those 'Bathyspheres' closer to what would be the equivalent of a Disneyland 'People Mover' Capsule (moving on a cable), we can preserve the original styled 'vision', but then have it be something workable ( and more viable even than realistic 'submarines', as something used for a reliable/routine/maintainable City "Transit System" ).

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Real World Streamlining 1936

Italian 1936 streamlined electric train. The game designers of BioShock never quite 'got' the essence of Streamlining ( Something which started centuries ago for things which move through Water ).

They bizarrely overdecorated Raptures Trams and AE Trains into something that was not Art Deco, nor even the modern style of that time.

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Multiple Trolley lines in downtown LA. Populations require sufficient transportation criss-crossing the city.

1/3 of the land area in urban areas is taken up by transportation ( think about it and you then can realize its quite true ). In this picture you have good wide streets, a tracked trolley system, lots of autos and parking for them, and' sidewalks.

Columbia has all that open space, but THAT is still unused for any transport ( just as neither is it for any real mass of buildings, residences, businesses ). In the game, you see those meager Columbia sidewalks and roads ( impaired by constant stairs and gaps ) ... WHERE do they actually get anyone to ??? They hardly do.

Barges ? Not as versatile as the common transportation actually used for everyday needs.

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As one game commentator said about Infinite BS : The game's pretty Columbia was NOT a city, it was merely a prop for mediocre gunplay, and a rather confused and forced story.

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PLANES TOO ??

Not this one - which is an American Clipper used to take rich passengers across the Pacific (and later the Atlantic) in the late 1930s ( then used as Naval Scout Planes in WW2 ) THESE require really smooth water to land/takeoff from. By the end of WW2, newer planes could match and exceed its range and operated on land airports.

A much smaller seaplane type might land near Rapture in smooth(er) ocean water during calm weather. They would fly from nearby airports to make priority deliveries.

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For Columbia

Mostly Far Less Fantastical/Illogical ...

REAL SKYLINE -- Not quite as exciting

a few years in the future from 1912, but wasn't Columbia SUPPOED to be about stealing things from the future ???

Circa 1900 Monorail

Actual period locomotive built the year before the Columbian Exposition

a few decades later nothing Fink couldn't have stolen

Los Angeles 1911

This is actually in a plane

1776 - WTF does Fink know about Submarines ?

So much Fink could have Stolen from the Future - and all the Fantasy was there to do all of it

Chase Scenes, we coulda had Chase Scenes

Funiculars were common back in those days

1899 NOTE - all those wires

1909 - but they don't go up and down stairs , nor jump gaps between buildings

1900 Electric Bus ( only useful if Columbia doesn't have so many hindering stairs and gaps )

1888 - It was rather dim that the 'Skyline' did not have 'people carriers' about this size

The era still largely ran (locally) on horses

Early vehicles - no need for a simulacrum of a horse

Transportation In A Real City

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Future Visions Which Were Far Better Than That Game Demented "Skyline"

Infinite BS Concept Art

Monorails existed 1900, but this is more advanced

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Final Disclaimer : I am aware that various Fanbois think any kind of negative or different comments about BioShock makes me a "Poo Poo Head" ( in their minds ), and they feel fully justified in their 'Being So Offended' by my contrary ideas, and for their fervent wish to Silence anyone talking/thinking expressing such things ...

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